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		<title>Network Issue in AIR</title>
		<link>http://blog.swfjunkie.com/2010/06/air-network-issues-on-windows/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wasted 4 hours on this problem and figured i might aswell document it, so that if someone else is going to run into the same issue, they won&#8217;t have to suffer the same 4 hours that i just did. If you use AIR Applications under Windows and all of sudden those apps can&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wasted 4 hours on this problem and figured i might aswell document it, so that if someone else is going to run into the same issue, they won&#8217;t have to suffer the same 4 hours that i just did.</p>
<p>If you use AIR Applications under Windows and all of sudden those apps can&#8217;t connect to the internet anymore, make sure that your Internet Explorer is not &#8220;Working Offline&#8221;. You can check in the Menu of Internet Explorer under <strong>Tools -&gt; Work Offline</strong>. If it has a checkmark, remove it and your apps should be working fine again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really suprised that the Windows Version of AIR apparently retrieves it&#8217;s Network Capabitilies via Internet Explorer and that this behaviour is in no way documented anywhere. Hopefully Adobe will changes this or atleast make sure that people now about this.</p>


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		<title>Bringing the Monster to the Swiss Flash User Group</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the fun opportunity to showcase the newest debugging star in town at the latest Swiss Flash User Group Meeting. The name ?  De MonsterDebugger ! De MonsterDebugger is an open source debugger for Adobe Flash, Flex and AIR. De MonsterDebugger is made in Flex and AIR by design studio De Monsters. It&#8217;s awesome [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Starting off the Presentation" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/starting_off_md_preso.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-209" title="Click the Image to view impressions from the presentation" src="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/header_sfug_monsterdebugger_preso.jpg" alt="header image to the monsterdebugger presentation at sfug meeting" width="619" height="240" /></a></p>
<p>I had the fun opportunity to showcase the newest debugging star in town at the latest <a class="snap_shots" title="Swiss Flash User Group" href="http://www.sfug.ch" target="_blank">Swiss Flash User Group</a> Meeting. The name ?  <a class="snap_shots" href="http://demonsterdebugger.com/" target="_blank">De MonsterDebugger</a><span class="snap_shots"> !<br />
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<p><strong>De MonsterDebugger</strong> is an open source debugger for Adobe Flash, Flex and AIR. De MonsterDebugger is made in Flex and AIR by design studio <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.demonsters.com/" target="_blank">De Monsters</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s awesome feature-set sure help making debugging fun:</p>
<ul>
<li> <strong>Tree structure</strong>, lets you walk through your entire application on code-level</li>
<li><strong>Live editing</strong>, means you can edit properties and instantly see the effects in your application</li>
<li><strong>Detailed traces</strong>, lets you trace Strings, Numbers, XML, Arrays, Objects with great detail</li>
<li><strong>Method testing</strong>, is very easy as you can run most methods and catch the results instantly</li>
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<p>Sounds neat doesn&#8217;t it! You won&#8217;t let go of it once you used it. I&#8217;m sure the SFUG audience thought the same. For some impressions of the presentation <a title="Starting off the Presentation" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/starting_off_md_preso.jpg">click here</a> or click the header image above. Do not pay attention to the picture quality, a friend took em with his iPhone ;).</p>
<p>If you want to check out the slides, make sure to view the presentation over at <a class="snap_shots" href="http://www.slideshare.net/_sandro/monsterdebugger-presentation-1161822" target="_blank">SlideShare.net</a> .</p>
<div style="display: none;"><a title="Outlining De MonsterDebugger Features" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/outlining_features.jpg"></a><br />
<a title="Explaining Live Application View" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/displaying_live_application_view.jpg"></a><br />
<a title="Explaining something intensely" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/explaining_intensly.jpg"></a><br />
<a title="Hands-on: Method Testing" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/hands_on_method_testing.jpg"></a><br />
<a title="Hands-on: Method Testing" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/hands_on_method_testing2.jpg"></a><br />
<a title="Hands-on: Explaining Method Testing" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/explaining_method_testing.jpg"></a><br />
<a title="Listening to questions from the audience" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/answering_questions.jpg"></a><br />
<a title="Time for the well deserved beer afterwards" rel="lightbox[mdSFUG]" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intro.jpg"></a></div>


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		<title>Swiss Flash User Group Meeting &#8211; March 17, 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 23. Open Meeting of the SFUG is at hand. On March 17, 2009 we meet up at the offices of .nemos once again to discuss our favorite topic, the Flash Platform. This time Flash veterans will get infos on how they can profit from using Flex and what has to be kept in mind [...]]]></description>
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<p>The 23. Open Meeting of the <a class="snap_shots" title="SFUG Website" href="http://www.sfug.ch/" target="_blank">SFUG</a> is at hand. On March 17, 2009 we meet up at the offices of <a title="How to get there" href="http://yellow.local.ch/de/d/iJZKR5yxjvSF7ya2cpVlsQ?what=.nemos%20GmbH&amp;where=Z%C3%BCrich" target="_blank">.nemos</a> once again to discuss our favorite topic, the Flash Platform.</p>
<p>This time Flash veterans will get infos on how they can profit from using Flex and what has to be kept in mind when using Flex. I will be holding a talk about DeMonsterDebugger and why it has become my new absolute favorite debugger. There will also be a talk about what you can do when you mixup AIR with the Wii-Controller.</p>
<p>Also, there will be some steaming hot news concerning the SFUG &#8211; so make sure not to miss out on it and drop by!</p>
<p>Here the details to the  talks:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Moving from AS3 to Flex &#8211; advantages, hazards, traps</strong> (<a class="snap_shots" title="Florian's Blog" href="http://www.derhess.de/" target="_blank">Florian Weil</a>, <a class="snap_shots" title="Company Website" href="http://liip.ch" target="_blank">Liip AG</a>)<br />
<em>At first view developing with Flex looks pretty easy and comfortable for Flash developers. But that Impression is misleading since some features of Flex have to be savoured with caution.<br />
Florian delivers in his talk a conceptional view into the Flex Framework und shows up when it makes sense to use Flex and what hurdles there are to master when switching from Flash to Flex.</em></p>
<p><strong>DeMonsterDebugger &#8211; monstrously mighty Flash Debugging</strong> (<a title="The Blog you are on right now ;)" href="http://blog.swfjunkie.com" target="_blank">Sandro Ducceschi</a>, <a class="snap_shots" title="Company Website" href="http://liip.ch" target="_blank">Liip AG</a>)<br />
<em>A new Debugger has rised to stardom in the Flash world and has quickly become THE tool for squashing them nasty bugs. Name? <a class="snap_shots" title="Debugger Homepage" href="http://demonsterdebugger.com/" target="_blank">DeMonsterDebugger</a>! Sandro shows us just how much horsepower the new Debugger is sporting and how it aided him while developing his recently opensourced Twitter API, <a class="snap_shots" title="Tweetr API Googlecode Website" href="http://code.google.com/p/tweetr/" target="_blank">Tweetr</a>.</em></p>
<p><strong>Wii-controlled AIR-Games</strong> (<a class="snap_shots" title="Marcel's Blog" href="http://vogtmitvogt.com/" target="_blank">Marcel Vogt</a>, <a class="snap_shots" title="Company Website" href="http://www.nemos.ch/" target="_blank">.nemos GmbH</a>)<br />
<em>That AIR is not only awesome to develop RIA&#8217;s, but also for Game development will be shown by Marcel by presenting a current project of his. He combines <a class="snap_shots" title="Box2D @sourceforge" href="http://box2dflash.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">Box2D</a> with the <a class="snap_shots" title="WiiFlashServer @googlecode" href="http://code.google.com/p/wiiflash" target="_blank">WiiFlashServer</a> to develop a Game, in which the Wii Wheel and also the Balance Board are used.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Everyone interested and fascinated by the Flash Platform (Flash, Flex, AIR etc) are warmly weclome to drop by:</p>
<p><strong>When:</strong> Tuesday, March 17, 2009 &#8211; 19.00 till 21.30<br />
<strong>Where:</strong> <a title="How to get there" href="http://yellow.local.ch/de/d/iJZKR5yxjvSF7ya2cpVlsQ?what=.nemos%20GmbH&amp;where=Z%C3%BCrich" target="_blank">.nemos GmbH, Eichstrasse 25, 8045 Zürich</a><br />
<strong>Cost:</strong> none at all!<br />
<strong>How to get there:</strong> From HB Zürich with the S-Bahn 10 (18.26h) till Station Binz</p>


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		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As from today i am very proud to announce that this blog is aggregated by the world famous Adobe feeds aggregator. In hopes to contribute a thing or two, welcome to all the new readers :) Tweet This! Share this on Facebook Digg this! Share this on del.icio.us Post on Google Buzz Stumble upon something [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As from today i am very proud to announce that this blog is aggregated by the world famous Adobe feeds aggregator. In hopes to contribute a thing or two, welcome to all the new readers :)</p>
<p><a href="http://feeds.adobe.com/"><img class="alignnone" style="border: 0pt none;" title="Aggregated by MXNA" src="http://feeds.adobe.com/images/mxna88x31.gif" alt="" width="88" height="31" /></a></p>


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		<title>L//P is looking for Flashers!</title>
		<link>http://blog.swfjunkie.com/2009/02/lp-as-looking-for-flashers/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Read on mate!" href="http://www.liip.ch/fr/company/jobs/java-flash-developer-fribourg-2008.html" target="_blank">Got what it takes ?</a> What are you waiting for!?</p>


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		<title>Had an awesome Friday</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Friday we decided to go to Aarau and our bestest of friend Yann (who&#8217;s family anyway by now ;) ) came with us. Weather was awesome nice and we had a great day! Also Yann gave me a early Birthday gift. A digital Camcorder! What a crazyhead! I love him! Check out the pictures [...]]]></description>
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<p>On Friday we decided to go to Aarau and our bestest of friend Yann (who&#8217;s family anyway by now ;) ) came with us. Weather was awesome nice and we had a great day! Also Yann gave me a early Birthday gift. A digital Camcorder! What a crazyhead! I love him! Check out <a class="snap_shots" title="The mommy's Flickr" href="http://flickr.com/photos/25425772@N04/sets/72157605743042310/" target="_blank">the pictures</a> we took from that day. Isabella sure loved her Balloon.</p>


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		<title>Blog is now OpenID enabled</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, finally found the time to install the OpenID Plugin for wordpress. If you don&#8217;t have an OpenID yet. Get one! It&#8217;s goood. Tweet This! Share this on Facebook Digg this! Share this on del.icio.us Post on Google Buzz Stumble upon something good? Share it on StumbleUpon Share this on Technorati Share this on Reddit [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, finally found the time to install the <a class="snap_shots" href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/openid/" target="_blank">OpenID Plugin for wordpress</a>. If you don&#8217;t have an <a class="snap_shots" href="http://openid.net/" target="_blank">OpenID</a> yet. Get one! It&#8217;s goood.</p>


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		<title>Things that are cooking&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am very busy at the moment on many different fronts. The Coverflow Clone i made for local.ch will be going open source. I am very exited about that. Seeing that there are many of these clones out there i&#8217;m sure that this one has a very distinct reason d&#8217;etre. It&#8217;s done in AS2 Papervision3D [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very busy at the moment on many different fronts. The <a class="snap_shots" title="Here in action" href="http://www.local.ch/de/Basel/cinema.html" target="_blank">Coverflow Clone</a> i made for <a class="snap_shots" title="Check out their site" href="http://local.ch" target="_blank">local.ch</a> will be going open source. I am very exited about that. Seeing that there are many of these clones out there i&#8217;m sure that this one has a very distinct reason d&#8217;etre. It&#8217;s done in <strong>AS2</strong> <a class="snap_shots" title="Papervision3D's Home" href="http://papervision3d.org" target="_blank">Papervision3D</a> and highly optimized for perfomance. More about this soon.</p>
<p>On other fronts, i am trying to finish Trader v1 for public release to enter the latest <a title="MochiAds Website" href="https://www.mochiads.com/" target="_blank">MochiAds</a> Contest.</p>
<p>I also have the possiblity to write a couple Tutorials for <a title="Papervision3D Tutorials" href="http://pv3d.org" target="_blank">pv3d.org</a> which i&#8217;m also very excited about.</p>
<p>Workwise i&#8217;m stuck with javascript/css work and can&#8217;t wait to get my hands dirty again with actionscript/flex.  As we speak of Actionscript/Flex, the <a class="snap_shots" title="Gallery of the Air Camp" href="http://www.aircamp.ch/gallery/aircamp-zurich-day-1/" target="_blank">Adobe Air Camp</a> also left me quite inspired to make ample use of <a title="AIR Homepage" href="http://www.adobe.com/products/air/" target="_blank">AIR</a> in forthcoming projects. More on that topic soon.</p>
<p>Last but absolutely not least, <a class="snap_shots" title="Michel's blog" href="http://blog.starnut.com/" target="_blank">Michel</a> and I will merge our knowledge and deliver it for your reading pleasure over at <a class="snap_shots" title="Bookmark it ;)" href="http://bytesforbreakfast.com" target="_blank">bytesforbreakfast.com</a> , which will become our technical blog. So make sure to check it out regularly ;)</p>


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		<title>Was about time&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Decided to finally finish &#8220;setting up&#8221; this blog (which i wanted to do since, hmm&#8230;beginning of 2007?). So there ya have it, what changed from before to now? CSS Changes New Header Rotation Script (Header Image has Title tag to show who&#8217;s it from and the name , also is able to show swf&#8217;s now [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decided to finally finish &#8220;setting up&#8221; this blog (which i wanted to do since, hmm&#8230;beginning of 2007?). So there ya have it, what changed from before to now?</p>
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<li>New Header Rotation Script (Header Image has Title tag to show who&#8217;s it from and the name , also is able to show swf&#8217;s now</li>
<li>Couple new Headergraphics (including my alltime favorite, Döner Logo)</li>
<li>Added Lightbox for Pictures</li>
<li>Fixed some minor JS Problems</li>
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<p>In other news &#8211; i have set up a pastebin at <a href="http://pastebin.swfjunkie.com" title="Paste your Codesnippets here" target="_blank">http://pastebin.swfjunkie.com</a> . Something new that needs to be made pretty and useable ;).</p>


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		<title>L//P goes hacking the green</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sandro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last Friday, we had our L//P autumn trip. This time, we went golfing to Schinznach Bad and afterwards walked uphill to the &#8220;Hausberg&#8221; of Zurich, the Uetliberg, had a very delicious Raclette there and in general a very good time. As a gadget loving company, we had of course many picture taking people with us, [...]]]></description>
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<p>Last Friday, we had our <a href="http://www.liip.ch" title="http://www.liip.ch" target="_blank">L//P</a> autumn trip. This time, we went golfing to Schinznach Bad and afterwards walked uphill to the &#8220;Hausberg&#8221; of Zurich, the <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uetliberg">Uetliberg</a>, had a very delicious <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raclette">Raclette</a> there and in general a very good time. As a gadget loving company, we had of course many picture taking people with us, so there are <a href="http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=liip+and+2007+and++autumn.trip&amp;ct=6&amp;ss=2&amp;s=int">tons of images of the day</a> on flickr.</p>


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